Why prioritize people in a world of technology? In this episode of The Relational Podcast, Jane explores with her special guest, Sonja Betschart, co-founder and co-pilot of We Robotics how authentic relationships can be more powerful than any strategy or technology in driving meaningful change.

Through an honest and insightful conversation, Sonja shares her fascinating journey from constant action to a leadership style grounded in deep and intentional relationships. You’ll discover how this shift radically transformed her personal and professional outcomes, providing her with more energy, fulfillment, and—surprisingly—greater tangible results.

Key moments in the episode:

• [00:02:40] Sonja’s transformative experiment: balancing action and relationships.
• [00:06:40] What do 50 projects reveal about the secret to success? (Hint: relationships win)
• [00:09:30] Why relationships are essential in times of crisis and mistrust.
• [00:13:50] The importance of personally experiencing deep listening and human connection.
• [00:15:30] A key mindset shift: from “what we do” to “how we relate”.

If you’ve ever felt like something is missing in the traditional way of working and leading, this episode offers a fresh, inspiring, and proven perspective on how putting relationships at the center can transform both your work and your life.

Hit play and discover the transformative power of relationships!

A big shout-out to the Wasan community for bringing us together – especially Meg Busse, Rachel Sinha, Christine Lai and Melanie Kahl, facilitators of the “Making the Case for Relationality” huddle. We appreciate your role in fostering this conversation. Thank you for tuning in!

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Conceived and co-created during a Wasan Network small group in partnership with Huddlecraft. Wasan is a global network of social impact and philanthropy practitioners who believe that relationships sit at the center of social change. Learn more: https://www.wasan-network.org/

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